感谢简明欧，欢迎多多发贴！
另：能否解释一下您的名字是什么意思呢，还有您的签名，俺实在是孤陋寡闻，谢谢！
[原创]10佳地下唱片之一殉难 - 异教赞美诗
2003-08-13 23:58:24 活着还 (北京)
2003-08-14 22:10:03 简明欧
看在斑竹的面子上,我只好多费点唇舌了,因为我本人认为网名对于其它人是没有多大意义的
LArc的全称是L`Arc~en~ciel,法语彩虹的意思
sakura源于日语樱花的意思,
非常喜欢五彩斑斓的颜色,但是又对纯白的樱花情有独衷,真的是很矛盾啊
签名吗,只是喜欢的一句歌词罢了,和本人没有多少现实意义(不必深究),只是初听到时无端的有些感触所以就拿来用了
LArc的全称是L`Arc~en~ciel,法语彩虹的意思
sakura源于日语樱花的意思,
非常喜欢五彩斑斓的颜色,但是又对纯白的樱花情有独衷,真的是很矛盾啊
签名吗,只是喜欢的一句歌词罢了,和本人没有多少现实意义(不必深究),只是初听到时无端的有些感触所以就拿来用了
2003-08-20 18:09:59 graveland
那个叫简明欧的，我想问问你，你知道什么叫黑金属吗？你知道什么是Primitive black metal什么是Raw black metal吗？其实喜欢不喜欢是个人的事，极端金属本来喜欢的人就不多，不过因为听不懂所以不喜欢和乐队的音乐好坏是两码事这点起码的道理你该明白吧？？
现在有了互联网各式各样的人都能跳出来说两句话了，可也别随便胡说呀，这帖子居然还能成“精”，不知道斑竹想什么呢
说说你的评论，“直到2分三十一秒的时候突然静了下来,一段吉他 solo响起,经典,不禁让我怀疑是哪部韩剧的插曲”我到想问问，让您想起哪部大片了？也把音频放上来我听听，让我感受感受韩国偶像剧配乐什么时候能暗合斯堪地那维亚的渎神怒火了，再有你转的metalfan他们对MartyrdoM那段木吉他的分析，完全是断章取义，整个评价你看完了吗就忙着先给自己找论据
你觉得买MartyrdoM亏的话退货去呀，不过也要感谢你，因为你的受骗上当为中国极端金属发展尽了微薄之力，今后还需要更多象你这样的人受骗上当，谢谢，谢谢
听说MartyrdoM又出了新碟了，您还可以再受骗一次，然后再来发个帖，没准还又成精了呢
最后把MartyrdoM的歌词在这里贴出来，你不是觉得人家叽里咕噜唱什么吗，自己看吧，看不懂找人翻译去
1. cruel morning
without light
I am waiting for the dawn
my life is fading in the dark
cravans of ignorance are praying on their knees
but my wrath is burning like hell, towards the sky
in the darkness of eclipse
the lies must be terminated
I will revenge
many years passed
before a new eclipse comes
nine stars rank in line
sound of inferno will call my name
bloody bible will turn into ashes
I will be born again
end in blaze
maybe my soul will wander
I know I will never see the dawn of next morning
journey of chaos has begun
seems that time has been frozen
when my mind
stepped into the entrance of inferno
where is the place should I go
sound of hell
leading my way
to the place I was born
on the cross
dawn will never come
bury my past
in the weep of tomorrow
2. raging sea
the voice was from the deep of the unknown continent
it is where the souls were summoned
following the call
they started the journey
cravens will be banished
without returning forever
in the raging waves of the ocean
billows seems to touch the heaven
they sailed into the raging sea
little boat floated as a leaf
maybe it would overturn anytime
but the storm
sent their resounding yell
in the journey
they passed the mist
power was charging
leviathan was killed
faramita was present to their sight
3. thorns and betryal
all over the ground of the road,thorns
stab through into the skin,keen
crags are standing at the sides of abyss
go through the path,no other way
a fork road appears suddenly
towards the garden of beauty
through the clouds ray of light was shining
flat on one side,sweet voice was calling
aside of the fork road
headless path way still
it was much more rought
all over the ground thrones
footpath is just only two feet
they have to walk one by one
abyss lay beside
ten thousand deep without seeing the fundus
someone refused to go forward
betray their belief enter the garden
stay there forever
stop passing the layers of purgatory
left other know that
another path must be heading the exit
although the cliff seems dangerous
but they must pass the way
who entered the garden soon found
beautiful pictures suddenly disappeared
force throw them into the void of unknown,they can't dispute
they paid for their recreance
they were punished for their defection
men on the cliff speeling hard
rocks breaking off from the cliff
cliff is steeper and steeper
they climb higher and higher
4.thousand suns
the most difficult trip they faced
the earth was burning in blazes
just like thousand suns
even steel would be melted
just like our arch enemy
storms he breathed and thunders he took
he could scatter the dazzling glare
beat your eyes blind
they seemed different like before
hearing the voice from the elder
telling them their mortal bodies
couldn't defend the inferno fire
just like natural force of the mortals
couldn't defend the power of divinity
you will never be favored with power of wonder
the true power was from yourselves
when you believe you have already got the true power
the dooms day of your enemies had come
they had grown up and became warriors
gathered at here
under the aflutter banners
adjuring by the name of blood and swords
enemies would never know what peace is
5. against the wind
in the far far forever frozen land
mountains look like castle in the air
cold but bright
horse runs against the wind
though the plate and the iced lake
sparkling aurora enlightens the land
instantly immerge and disappear
as if the remote regnant thearchy of antiquity
are standing in the easten sky
in the dance of blizzard
I am walking along in the forest
Ice and snow buried the pantheon
the storm has stopped
it is snowing still
forest lies in silence
once in a while I hear the branches' sound
stepping into the hall
aurora flares again
here is where the elder spirit of martyrs dewell
I offered my blood and my sincere heart
please wake again for me
6. hatred
after many years
time came to have the final battle
in the human nature
flames of the castles began to burn
defending works fell apart one by one
warrior defend their glory with blood
conflagate fight with animosity
slay my enemies on mother land
loud and clear clarion began to blow
drum of battle is convulsing three kindom of heaven and earth and oceans
7. pagan's hymn
riding on the wind
spirits of holy mountains were blessing me
son of northern gods
born for vengeance
i came from the shore of sulphur lake in hell
i came from the glaciers in deep frozen polar nights
on top of mountain
spear point towards welkin
flash of the blade
dazzled like lightening
silence was broken
warriors rushed into the palace
in weald
begins to attack the escorts of the king
steel of my sword
sounds like roaring thunder
it bears the sign of pride
that is the colour of your floating blood
attack
i am charging my force
crazy as wolves
attack
i stepped on their corpse
pride as lions
mighty thunders were stained with my hate
the cruel enemy
was recalcitrating in despair
he saw his termination in his true nightmare
gallop in battle,my steed
broken body of enemies it oversteped
sword of doom was
beheading thou skulls
in the suffocating fog
a steed rushing out
beasts hauling chariot
viper spraying venom,dragon breathing fire
they tried hard to stop our attack
but finally killed by my hand
i saw the last defender
i was also caught in his sight
i saw his arrow was aiming
and he must be slain by my sword
before he impale me with his cursed arrow
at the time of lethal
world instantly stopped
after the mighty clash
a skull fell on the ground
calorific blood covered me
i don't know whether my heart is beating
i look up to the bluish green vault of heaven
cloud turned to red
suddenly i memorized many years ago
the dawn never come at that time
现在有了互联网各式各样的人都能跳出来说两句话了，可也别随便胡说呀，这帖子居然还能成“精”，不知道斑竹想什么呢
说说你的评论，“直到2分三十一秒的时候突然静了下来,一段吉他 solo响起,经典,不禁让我怀疑是哪部韩剧的插曲”我到想问问，让您想起哪部大片了？也把音频放上来我听听，让我感受感受韩国偶像剧配乐什么时候能暗合斯堪地那维亚的渎神怒火了，再有你转的metalfan他们对MartyrdoM那段木吉他的分析，完全是断章取义，整个评价你看完了吗就忙着先给自己找论据
你觉得买MartyrdoM亏的话退货去呀，不过也要感谢你，因为你的受骗上当为中国极端金属发展尽了微薄之力，今后还需要更多象你这样的人受骗上当，谢谢，谢谢
听说MartyrdoM又出了新碟了，您还可以再受骗一次，然后再来发个帖，没准还又成精了呢
最后把MartyrdoM的歌词在这里贴出来，你不是觉得人家叽里咕噜唱什么吗，自己看吧，看不懂找人翻译去
1. cruel morning
without light
I am waiting for the dawn
my life is fading in the dark
cravans of ignorance are praying on their knees
but my wrath is burning like hell, towards the sky
in the darkness of eclipse
the lies must be terminated
I will revenge
many years passed
before a new eclipse comes
nine stars rank in line
sound of inferno will call my name
bloody bible will turn into ashes
I will be born again
end in blaze
maybe my soul will wander
I know I will never see the dawn of next morning
journey of chaos has begun
seems that time has been frozen
when my mind
stepped into the entrance of inferno
where is the place should I go
sound of hell
leading my way
to the place I was born
on the cross
dawn will never come
bury my past
in the weep of tomorrow
2. raging sea
the voice was from the deep of the unknown continent
it is where the souls were summoned
following the call
they started the journey
cravens will be banished
without returning forever
in the raging waves of the ocean
billows seems to touch the heaven
they sailed into the raging sea
little boat floated as a leaf
maybe it would overturn anytime
but the storm
sent their resounding yell
in the journey
they passed the mist
power was charging
leviathan was killed
faramita was present to their sight
3. thorns and betryal
all over the ground of the road,thorns
stab through into the skin,keen
crags are standing at the sides of abyss
go through the path,no other way
a fork road appears suddenly
towards the garden of beauty
through the clouds ray of light was shining
flat on one side,sweet voice was calling
aside of the fork road
headless path way still
it was much more rought
all over the ground thrones
footpath is just only two feet
they have to walk one by one
abyss lay beside
ten thousand deep without seeing the fundus
someone refused to go forward
betray their belief enter the garden
stay there forever
stop passing the layers of purgatory
left other know that
another path must be heading the exit
although the cliff seems dangerous
but they must pass the way
who entered the garden soon found
beautiful pictures suddenly disappeared
force throw them into the void of unknown,they can't dispute
they paid for their recreance
they were punished for their defection
men on the cliff speeling hard
rocks breaking off from the cliff
cliff is steeper and steeper
they climb higher and higher
4.thousand suns
the most difficult trip they faced
the earth was burning in blazes
just like thousand suns
even steel would be melted
just like our arch enemy
storms he breathed and thunders he took
he could scatter the dazzling glare
beat your eyes blind
they seemed different like before
hearing the voice from the elder
telling them their mortal bodies
couldn't defend the inferno fire
just like natural force of the mortals
couldn't defend the power of divinity
you will never be favored with power of wonder
the true power was from yourselves
when you believe you have already got the true power
the dooms day of your enemies had come
they had grown up and became warriors
gathered at here
under the aflutter banners
adjuring by the name of blood and swords
enemies would never know what peace is
5. against the wind
in the far far forever frozen land
mountains look like castle in the air
cold but bright
horse runs against the wind
though the plate and the iced lake
sparkling aurora enlightens the land
instantly immerge and disappear
as if the remote regnant thearchy of antiquity
are standing in the easten sky
in the dance of blizzard
I am walking along in the forest
Ice and snow buried the pantheon
the storm has stopped
it is snowing still
forest lies in silence
once in a while I hear the branches' sound
stepping into the hall
aurora flares again
here is where the elder spirit of martyrs dewell
I offered my blood and my sincere heart
please wake again for me
6. hatred
after many years
time came to have the final battle
in the human nature
flames of the castles began to burn
defending works fell apart one by one
warrior defend their glory with blood
conflagate fight with animosity
slay my enemies on mother land
loud and clear clarion began to blow
drum of battle is convulsing three kindom of heaven and earth and oceans
7. pagan's hymn
riding on the wind
spirits of holy mountains were blessing me
son of northern gods
born for vengeance
i came from the shore of sulphur lake in hell
i came from the glaciers in deep frozen polar nights
on top of mountain
spear point towards welkin
flash of the blade
dazzled like lightening
silence was broken
warriors rushed into the palace
in weald
begins to attack the escorts of the king
steel of my sword
sounds like roaring thunder
it bears the sign of pride
that is the colour of your floating blood
attack
i am charging my force
crazy as wolves
attack
i stepped on their corpse
pride as lions
mighty thunders were stained with my hate
the cruel enemy
was recalcitrating in despair
he saw his termination in his true nightmare
gallop in battle,my steed
broken body of enemies it oversteped
sword of doom was
beheading thou skulls
in the suffocating fog
a steed rushing out
beasts hauling chariot
viper spraying venom,dragon breathing fire
they tried hard to stop our attack
but finally killed by my hand
i saw the last defender
i was also caught in his sight
i saw his arrow was aiming
and he must be slain by my sword
before he impale me with his cursed arrow
at the time of lethal
world instantly stopped
after the mighty clash
a skull fell on the ground
calorific blood covered me
i don't know whether my heart is beating
i look up to the bluish green vault of heaven
cloud turned to red
suddenly i memorized many years ago
the dawn never come at that time
2003-08-20 18:19:24 活着还 (北京)
精华有很多原因。。。首先是鼓励原创和多发贴的一种形式，因为这个论坛还很不完善，贴子本来就少发贴的人更少，我想让论坛的气氛活跃一些，并且不管作者的观点如何，至少是他自己的一些想法，您能发表不同的意见和看法当然更好。。。这个贴子就更应该是精华了。。。
非常感谢你能常来！
非常感谢你能常来！
2003-08-20 18:23:34 graveland
精华的原因是很多，不过烂帖再怎么样也不能成精华吧，虽然他的确写了很多字。。。。。。我不是在对他表示不同的意见和看法，我是在教育他怎么对待音乐
把这张唱片单独列出来,实在不是因为它比排行榜上其它的九大有如何的过人之处,仅仅是因为我买了这张专辑(有实践才有发言权)并且还有一两首觉得不错值得浪费大家几分钟时间来听的歌曲.
偶然认识了某个正在地下默默无名挣扎着的乐队主唱阿太,从他那边开始很浅显的接触一些"原始黑金"(Primitive black metal).主唱压抑愤怒的嘶吼,嘈杂混乱的背景吉他声,我对于这种仅仅充斥着类似怪物狂叫的音乐一直是嗤之以鼻的.阿太教导说原始黑金讲究的就是速度.总之我就是对于这种主唱吼两声糊弄人的音乐就是不感冒.某年某月某日在极端上看到殉难的这张专辑,冲着国内第一张地下黑暗金属的招牌而且限量发行3000张,顿时让我热血沸腾.买了,听了,只一两首,大呼,什么鬼东西,垃圾.顿时觉得接电话大赞Pagan's Hymn的编辑在欺骗劳动人民的感情.Pagan's Hymn自然丢在了一旁.某年某月某日某君不泄努力有发了首原始黑金给我,同样某人的惨叫声响起,叽里咕噜也不道唱什么(估计是为了追求味道纯正采用的是英文歌词),直到2分三十一秒的时候突然静了下来,一段吉他 solo响起,经典,不禁让我怀疑是哪部韩剧的插曲,如此的静谧和详和.三分四十秒,耳边再次回响起汹涌尖锐的吉他声以及沉重的鼓机声.仿佛刚才的是我的幻听.原来这首就是让我丢弃的Pagan's Hymn的第五首曲子
<转载>1第五首《against the wind》中又在金属的淡出时出现原声吉他，比《throne and betryal》的原声味道好，但是略嫌长了一些，或者如果在背景中加一些风雪声也许会更有意境，另外，接金属的地方比较突兀。<转载>2在部分作品中出现了原始吉他的分解段落,不过我不喜欢这样的东西,它的出现并没有给整体带来很好的效果
看的出来两位乐评者就是对于against tne wind中间突然出现的吉他solo持否定的态度.其实音乐这种东西最能体现"萝卜青菜各有所好",我更喜欢清亮的原始吉他声,在我看来这才识闪光点.可是对于极端金属的支持者就是个败笔.究竟如何,还是试听一下吧
下载(直接点击或者flashget都可以,好不容易从flashget的历史资料翻出来的,谢我吧.)URL http://www.underfm.com.cn/dyingart/chinese/discography/MARTYRDOM-Against%20the%20Wind%20.ram
乐队访谈及发展历程http://www.metalprovider.com/gallery_of_suicide/inland/xunnan/inland_martyrdom_i.htm
部分乐评http://www.metalprovider.com/gallery_of_suicide/inland/xunnan/inland_martyrdom.htm
还有段据说是现场,想要我可以上传
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